5b.
Medicare Open-Market plans subsidized by HP or HPE.
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HP/HPE enrollment deadlines are soft deadlines. Medicare
deadlines are hard deadlines.
You may have two alternatives
for your Medicare coverage -- depending on your HP/HPE retiree medical program:
1. Group Medicare policies are privately negotiated
by HP or HPE and administered by the HP or HPE Benefits
Center. Premiums reflect the cost of care across the HP or
HPE retiree population, and are increasing. Group policies
can be very different from similarly-named publicly-available
individual policies purchased on the open market. May cover
dependents or be better for those with pre-existing
conditions or high medication costs. May have a broader
network and service area, more comprehensive coverage, or
different out-of-pocket costs and yearly limits. HP or HPE
is the purchaser of the policy -- and can intervene on your
behalf. Details and member advice:
https://www.hpalumni.org/medicare-group
2.
Individual, open-market
Medicare policies are available through insurance sales
agencies and directly from insurance companies. Policies
vary on critical details -- such as network and service
area, referrals and pre-approvals, out-of-pocket costs, and
yearly limits. Premiums are based on the highly-competitive
open market and across all customers of the insurer. HP and
HPE have both selected a specific agency -- Alight Retiree
Health Solutions -- to sell and administer policies that are
subsidized by HP or HPE. You receive an HP/HPE subsidy only
if you purchase through AlightRHS. (Note: No sales agency, including
AlightRHS, offers all policies potentially available in your ZIP
code.)
Details and
member advice below.
If you decline HP/HPE medical coverage: Depending on your
situation, you can lose the ability to re-enroll in HP/HPE
coverage -- and your surviving dependents will not be eligible
for HP/HPE coverage. Details:
https://www.hpalumni.org/reenroll-restrictions
You must carefully compare the alternatives yourself.
The AlightRHS sales agency does not have info on the HP/HPE private group policies.
Member advice on how to compare policies:
https://www.hpalumni.org/health-compare
Consider individual, open market Medicare plans subsidized by HP
or HPE:
To administer individual policies subsidized through the Benefits Centers, HP and HPE have
selected a nationwide sales agency that offers many (but
not all) available open-market plans -- Alight Retiree Health
Solutions (AlightRHS).
(Note that AlightRHS is a separate company from Alight Benefits
Administration, which operates the HP Benefits Center. The HPE
Benefits Center is operated by Bswift/Aetna.)
You receive an HP/HPE subsidy only
if you purchase through AlightRHS. This is covered in your
Annual Enrollment Coverage Statement, the personalized cover
letter mailed with the printed Enrollment Guide. This is not clear in
the Enrollment Guides.
There are government specifications for open-market Advantage
and Medigap policies. A carrier may add additional features,
but can't change the required basic coverage.
Insurance sales agencies charge the
same list price and are paid the same standard commission by the
insurance companies -- for the initial sale and then a monthly
admin fee thereafter.
How it works: You pay list price to
the insurance company every month. AlightRHS is paid their commission
and reports to the Benefits Center.
- If on the Pre-2003 program, you are reimbursed monthly from a
special "Retiree Reimbursement Account" (RRA) until your annual
subsidy is used up. (No connection with any other account
that you might have, such as a Health Savings Account.) The
process works well once set up.
- If on the current Retiree Medical Program, you can request
reimbursement via your Retiree Medical Savings Account (RMSA.)
Your subsidy is not reported to the IRS as
taxable compensation.
HP/HPE do not directly pay
anything to AlightRHS. Instead, the insurance companies pay
AlightRHS for
new policies and renewals.
No sales agency, including AlightRHS, offers all policies potentially available in your ZIP code.
AlightRHS examples: 1.
AARP/UHC plans available by request. 2. Because Kaiser is not
available through AlightRHS, HP/HPE have Kaiser group plans available
through the Benefits Centers. 3. For example, until the HPAA
raised the issue with HP, Regence Idaho was not available from
AlightRHS.
AlightRHS has a very well-done "Plan
Recommendation Tool" -- with details and list prices for the
specific policies they carry.
To purchase an individual health
insurance policy, the transaction must be completed by an agent
who holds an insurance sales license in your state
The AlightRHS system and
agents do not have information on group plans available from
HP/HPE.
Examine the alternatives online
before your appointment with an AlightRHS agent,
which you can do without
registering or affecting current enrollment.
Members report that
AlightRHS agents vary dramatically in availability, experience, and
competence.
(The HPAA has an informal escalation path into AlightRHS management.
https://www.hpalumni.org/escalate-ARHS )
- Alight Retiree Health
Solutions (AlightRHS) will sell to anyone, but is now owned
by an HR outsourcing company. (The HP Benefits Center is operated by
a related company, Alight Benefits
Administration.)
- Prices
and features at
https://retiree.alight.com are the same as via the HP and
HPE logins. (
https://retiree.alight.com/hp and
https://retiree.alight.com/hewlettpackardenterprise )
- Members report that AlightRHS agents vary dramatically in
availability, experience, and competence.
No single agency represents all
companies. Some companies, such as Kaiser, prefer to sell
direct. In either case, the people you talk to must be
licensed
in your state.
You can compare benefits
and costs for all open-market policies -- Advantage, Drug, and Medigap
-- available in your ZIP code on the official Medicare
site. Gives estimated cost -- and contact info -- for each policy.
(Notes: No sales agency, including AlightRHS, offers all policies available in your area. The official Medicare comparison site does not have information on any group policies, such as
HP/HPE, that you might be qualified for.)
https://www.medicare.gov/plan-compare
There are government specifications for open-market Advantage
and Medigap policies. A carrier may add additional features,
but can't change the required basic coverage.
There are many ways
to buy Medicare policies. Your car/home insurance agent carries
a limited range of health policies. To find a local independent
agent familiar with what works best in your area, ask your
friends and neighbors -- or ask on Nextdoor or Facebook.
An experienced
health insurance agent can make a big difference. For example,
members report that their agent may submit an anonymous "test"
application to an insurance company. Or help them fill out their
application to position them for the best price or coverage --
or deal with pre-existing conditions.
You can explore most -- but not all
-- of your options without setting up an AlightRHS Retiree account (or without disturbing your current
AlightRHS Retiree account settings.)
1. Go to the Alight Retiree Health
Solutions (AlightRHS) public website
https://retiree.alight.com
Or you can go to AlightRHS's HP or HPE
website and create an account. (This is a different account from
your Benefits Center account.)
https://retiree.alight.com/hp -- AlightRHS website for HP.
https://retiree.alight.com/hewlettpackardenterprise --
AlightRHS
website for HPE.
Create account and enter your medications.
Then compare policies.
Get your
AlightRHS appointment early! In some states, AlightRHS
doesn't have a sufficient number of licensed agents. You are
competing for attention with employees and retirees of 150 other
organizations.
- AlightRHS agents vary in level of experience. Because
AlightRHS helps
people get their state insurance sales license, that job is an
entry path into the insurance industry.
- AlightRHS agents receive sales commissions for plans they place in your cart.
- Given AlightRHS's limited availability of licensed and experienced
agents in some states, it is best to explore your options online
before talking to AlightRHS. You can do that without setting up an
AlightRHS account or disturbing your current plan choices.
- The list price for a given plan is the same whether you
purchase it through AlightRHS or any other sales agency.
The amount of the subsidy you would receive if you
choose to buy through Alight Retiree Health
Solutions is shown in the body of
the personalized Annual Enrollment Coverage
Statement under the heading "HP
premium reimbursements for Alight Retiree Health
Solutions Retiree Health
Exchange coverage." [See yellow highlights in our
sample personalized Coverage Statement:
hpalumni.org/2021HPIncSampleStatement-Aon.pdf
]
Examine the AlightRHS choices for your area -- with list prices
that you pay directly to AlightRHS -- without making any commitment. (You
receive the RRA subsidy directly from HP.)
You can explore your options without talking to AlightRHS or creating
an account (or without disturbing your current account
settings.)
AlightRHS for HP
https://retiree.alight.com/hp
AlightRHS for HPE -- Hewlett Packard Enterprise
https://retiree.alight.com/hewlettpackardenterprise
Prepare for your call by using the AlightRHS site:
- Register and confirm your enrollment appointment
- Enter your prescriptions -- which has a huge effect on which
plans work best for you.
- Compare plans and put the best alternatives in the shopping
cart
Member tip: After the first year with AlightRHS, "Don't
bother with an Advisor, who is unlikely to know anything
that you haven't already researched. They also take up a lot
of your time. And from reports on this forum, they sometimes
stand you up. Now that we are allowed to do our own
enrollment on their web site, do that. It worked for me."
Work with both AlightRHS and the Benefits Center to determine
the best plan for your specific situation offered via each. Then you
make the final choice.
Your HP/HPE benefits account settings are confusing at first
glance:
- On your HP/HPE Benefits account, select "Alight Retiree Health
Solution $0.00" as your plan -- instead of the default company
group plan and price. This will cause the Benefits Center to
notify Alight. (It says "$0.00" because you pay the carrier
directly.)
- The plan or plans you bought are specified on your AlightRHS
account -- but are irrelevant to the company, and therefore not
indicated on your HP/HPE Benefits account.
Carefully go through the Annual Enrollment Coverage Statement,
the personalized cover letter mailed with the Enrollment Guide.
The Statement gives critical details that are not covered in the Guide -- such as the amount of any subsidy. Unlike the Enrollment Guide, your Coverage Statement is
not available on your
http://www.myhpbenefits.com account.
You can change back to an HP/HPE group plan from
AlightRHS
individual coverage, see your
Enrollment Guide for limitations.
Alight Retiree Health Solutions for HP
https://retiree.alight.com/hp
1-800-975-0355 -- 7 a.m. to 8 p.m. Central Time, Monday
through Friday
Alight Retiree Health Solutions for HPE -- Hewlett Packard Enterprise
https://retiree.alight.com/hewlettpackardenterprise
1-844-537-5303 -- 7 a.m. to 8 p.m. Central Time, Monday
through Friday
Troubleshooting. Member advice:
Medicare troubleshooting and contacts
Next step:
5c. How to Use Alight Retiree Health Solutions
How to efficiently use the insurance sales/admin agency selected
by HP and HPE.
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