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U.S. Retirement Plan Overview -- Pensions, 401(k)
Advice and reference info from members. (Updated Nov 3, 2020.) Questions or comments to: email@example.com
If you received a "Potential Private Retirement Benefit Information" notice from Social Security, it is based on years-old information, as indicated by the "Year Reported" box. The key word is "potential." Here's how to decode it -- and who to contact if you are not sure what happened with that account: https://www.hpalumni.org/PotentialBenefitLetter
If you are leaving the company, see our ASAP Checklist for additional information on this topic.
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Classification as "Retired." If an employee left at 55 or older with at least 10 years of service -- or left after 2010 with age-plus-years-of-service of at least 80 -- HPInc and HPE generally classify the employee as "retired" -- regardless of how they left and whether or not they have any retiree benefits. This is reported to outside payroll and employment verification services, but doesn't seem to have any negative consequences. Inquiries from state Unemployment Dept. claims examiners go to a specific group in HR, which replies via letter. Over the years, members have reported that HP did not block their UI claims.
Not always obvious: Which HP-related companies am I a retiree or former employee of? Given HP's complex history of acquisitions, divestitures, and spinoffs, the company or companies that you are legally a former employee of may not be obvious. If any doubt, check here: Which Company
The continuing HP 401(k) plan, which started in 1984:
- Documents downloaded by members on July 6, 2020: HP 401(k) Plan Summary Plan Description - 2017 2020 Summary of Modifications to 401(k) SPD How to decode an SPD. (For example, many of the postal contact addresses given in SPDs are extinct.) Decoding SPDs
HPInc Retirement Service Center manages pension and 401(k) accounts
for HPInc (formerly named Hewlett-Packard Company.)
Also manages any pension or 401(k) accounts that
Hewlett-Packard predecessor companies (such as Digital and
may have had. Operated by Fidelity Investments.
- Be sure you have a valid beneficiary designation on file at Fidelity.
- As stated in the SPD, benefits under 401(k) plans are not insured by the Pension Benefit Guaranty Corporation (PBGC.)
- Members report that there was a one-year waiting period to enroll in TAXCAP. Beginning Feb 1, 1998, new employees were automatically enrolled at the 3% level unless they changed the setting.
HPE: The HPE Retirement Service Center manages pension and 401(k) accounts for Hewlett-Packard Enterprise. Also manages any pension or 401(k) accounts that companies acquired by HPE since the HPInc/HPE split (such as Cray and Nimble) may have had. Operated by Fidelity Investments.1-800-409-4015, M-F 7:30 AM to 11:00 PM Central Time. Outside the U.S., call 1-508-787-9902 collect. Website: https://nb.fidelity.com/public/nb/default/home
SPDs: How to find the legal "Summary Plan Description" documents for HPInc and HPE: Finding SPDs How to decode an SPD. (For example, many of the postal contact addresses given in SPDs are extinct.) Decoding SPDs
Legacy HP retirement plans (which many HPE retirees are also in)...
- HP Deferred Profit Sharing Plan (DPSP.) You may have a benefit if eligible before November 1, 1993. No further contributions made after that date. The DPSP is a defined contribution plan.
- HP Retirement Plan. You may have a benefit if employed by HP on or before December 31, 2002. Existing participants have stopped accruing additional benefits. The RP is a defined benefit plan.
For details on the legacy HP "DPSP" and "RP" retirement
plans -- including a thorough discussion of the key
question: Should you take a lump-sum or a monthly
Service at predecessor companies.
Of HP's many predecessor companies, as far as we know: Only HP and DEC had retiree healthcare programs. Only HP, Digital, and EDS had pension plans. Over the years, HP, DEC, and EDS set aside money in dedicated trust funds to pay for those programs. Compaq, Tandem, Autonomy, Palm, etc. did not have retiree healthcare or pensions among their benefits programs. Their employees did not have those expectations and there were no corresponding trust funds to pass on to an acquiring company. Therefore, employees of those companies do not get credit under HP's retiree healthcare or pension programs for service at the predecessor company. (Predecessor service does count for FTO.) Details: DEC Benefits EDS Benefits
The non-profit Pension Rights Center has advice on tracing lost pension plans.
2015: HPInc/HPE Breakup.
"Overall, HP's pension plans are well funded and we continue to make contributions to pensions based on local funding requirements. HP is committed to maintaining funding in accordance with relevant pension funding rules, and this will not change following the business separation. Keep in mind any vested HP pension benefits you maintain are obligations of the pension plan itself, rather than HP. [Emphasis added] HP has made contributions to fund these benefits in a separate trust over time, and pension benefits are subject to minimum funding requirements that will continue even after the separation."
--Posted March 17, 2015 under "Retiree News" on the official HP Continuum password-protected retiree website operated by HPInc.
Rest assured, you will not lose any retirement benefit value as a result of the separation, and you will not need to take any action. If you still have benefits remaining in an HP pension plan or the HP 401(k) Plan, the value, timing, and method of your payments will not change, and you will not need to take any action. For more details about how your individual retirement benefits will be affected by the separation, watch for a personalized retirement announcement that will be mailed to your home in early September.
--From HP's August 27, 2015 message to U.S. retirees
Future of retiree healthcare: HP never made any explicit commitment to provide retiree healthcare in the entire history of the company. Of the many Hewlett-Packard predecessor companies, only DEC had retiree healthcare. Prices paid by retirees will continue to rise due to the cap put in place in 2010. Details
Time to untangle your stock! No one but you really cares about your employment-related stock. You may have stock in up to seven HP-related companies. Your stock may not all be in the same place. You may need to retrieve lost stock or dividends, find stray accounts, or estimate your cost basis. An HP Alumni team has developed a step-by-step process to find and protect your stock. Employee Stock
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